Do Anglo-Americans reject their identity?

At least one online commenter asserts this is true. Below is the comment from a blog, (with the commenter’s name blocked out):

This kind of thing turns up on blogs here and there; it must be a somewhat widespread idea. Another allegation is that (Anglo or WASP) Americans “have no culture’.

I don’t know who this commenter has spoken to, or if he has even been to our country; I also wonder what kind of sample of ‘Old Stock’ English-Americans he’s met or talked to.

We’ve been sort of written out of the script in our own country, as it were. Many people whose families were here before the American Revolution identify as just ‘American.’ Many English-Americans from the South identify with their state; Texas used to be like that. Texas, after all, was an independent country in its early history, and it did seem as though it were a world of its own. The South in general is, or used to be, distinctive. That part of the country, especially the Southeastern states, was settled by English Cavaliers, as contrasted to the very middle class colonists of New England. So not all English- or British-Americans have the same origins, which in part explains their varying cultures.

The Ulster folk who settled parts of the Southeast, the Appalachian mountains, are also a culture to themselves.

Do English-Americans have no culture then, or are their original culture and folkways gone and forgotten? My answer would be ‘no’, because I don’t believe that the old ways are dead, but they may be on life support in some places.

Another issue is that America is a country that emphasizes individuality at the expense of group identity, and this may be a natural tendency of Anglo-Saxons. Scots-Americans, including the Ulster folk who settled here, have their cultural events and I think they are more likely to express their identity than Anglos.

But for WASPs or English-Americans, the fact that we’ve been declared people without a culture or identity is not conducive to maintaining our identity. Speaking for myself, though, I have no problem telling people about my ancestry. I certainly would not consider it an “insult”as the comment writer I quoted at the beginning. I don’t know anyone who would.

It’s true that some Americans have an obvious hostility towards the people of Britain — let me correct that: I should have said ‘the people of England; that’s more specific and accurate. Online commenters, bolstered by anonymity, feel free to spill their feelings, sometimes in very unpleasant ways. The English royals are especially targeted for harsh criticism, but then there are many American women who dote on royalty and all the glamorous trappings.

Some Americans of English descent, because of all the negativity towards the English, may downplay their ancestry. And many Americans don’t really know their ancestry except in the vaguest terms. Because of propaganda many White Americans, including some Anglo-Americans, would rather be something more exotic than “boring” “whitebread” WASPs, as the stereotypes portray them.

Many people seem surprised to be told that so much of American culture, things we take for granted, are English (or British) in origin. Maybe people think that these aspects of our culture original to America, and were ‘invented’ out of whole cloth right here in America. It’s as if people think that when we separated from England, we had to invent a new culture from scratch, just to distinguish ourselves as a nation, to be different from our Mother Country. (Actually, there was a touch of this attitude in Noah Webster’s changing the spelling of many English words; Noah Webster thought Americans

5 thoughts on “Do Anglo-Americans reject their identity?

  1. I noticed you subscribed to my blog. Well I don’t have it in me to post.

    Here is my Puritan language reform proposal.
    Revert to Teutonic script. Cast out all the Latin.
    Create some form of symbolic language as well. This would be useful for our great spacial awareness.

    Quotes from Race or Mongrel by Alfred Schultz
    “England is great because Englishmen are great; Englishmen are great because the spirit of their ancestors is alive in them; and that spirit is alive in them because the blood that courses in their veins is the blood that rolled in the veins of the old Saxons. Never have Englishmen practiced promiscuity, never have they vitiated their blood. This race purity makes the English the greatest and the strongest of races.”

    “It was part of the subtle policy of Rome to systematically corrupt young Germans, who had either been persuaded to go to Rome, or who had been carried to Rome. On these Rome conferred rank and privileges. In Rome many Germans persuaded themselves to believe that Rome and civilization were synonymous terms; that the civilization of the German tribes was desirable; and that, therefore, the Romanization of Germany was a necessity, not a calamity to be striven against, but an opportunity eagerly to be sought. It was an insidious system that Rome employed, and it helped Rome gain many advantages over the Germans. The mongrel was very crafty and cunning, and Rome extended her frontier from the Alps to the Danube and to the Rhine.

    Had Rome been successful in Romanizing the Germans there would never have been a Germany, never an England, never a United States. A herd of worthless pan-Europeans, such as infested Rome, would have infested all of Europe; incapable of withstanding the attacks of the Mongols, Saracens, Huns, and Turks that at different times attempted the subjugation of Europe, and who would have destroyed the Aryan races, had Teutonic strength not expelled them. The resistance of the Teutons to Rome was therefore the most momentous struggle of history, and in it the Saxons took the chief part.”

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  2. Puritan – I think I know what you mean when you said (of your blog) that you didn’t have it in you to post. I feel that way at least some of the time. Maybe you’ll want to continue blogging.

    Thanks for the quotation from Schulz. Very relevant. I will have to look for the book containing that quote. I have an interest in HBD, though I’m just an amateur with basic knowledge of the subject. The problem is that HBD is not accepted by politically correct academia.

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  3. Hello Bonnyblue

    I hope this message reaches you in time for Christmas.

    Merry Christmas
    I like how on your blogs we can communicate in a genial manner without being lost in excessive numbers. That we don’t feel pressure to conform to the PTB PC is also a boon.

    Schultz is just such a refreshing change from the nonsense optimism of “multi-culti Anglo-replaci”. I disagree with some of what he said but it really does help me firm up my commitment to our heritage. I like what he said on Puritans.

    “Their vices were the
    vices of the time, their virtues were their own.”

    “The Massachusetts of old is dead; Plymouth Rock
    has become a legend; scant courtesy is paid to the Pil-
    grims and the Puritans and their institutions. The men
    who allow the Puritan purposes a fair presentation are
    accused of partiality and hypocrisy. Contempt for the
    Puritans is considered their just desert. And yet
    these men laid the corner-stone of this republic. They
    determined the direction in which this great common-
    wealth had to develop.”

    Now a relevant quote from captain Marryat in his “diary in America” He was from England.

    “Massachusetts is certainly very English in its scenery, and Boston es-
    sentially English as a city. The Bostonians assert that they are more
    English than we are, that is, that they have strictly adhered to the old
    English customs and manners, as handed down to them previous to the
    revolution. That of sitting a very long while at their wine after dinner,
    is one which they certainly adhere to, and which, I think, would be more
    honoured in the breach than the observance ; but their hospitality is un-
    bounded, and you do, as an Englishman, feel at home with them, I agree
    with the Bostonians so far, that they certainly appear to have made no
    change in their manners and customs for these last hundred Years. You
    meet here with frequent specimens of the Old English Gentleman,
    descendants of the best old English families who settled here long before
    the revolution, and are now living on their incomes, with a town house
    and a country seat to retire to during the summer season. The society
    of Boston is very delightful; it wins upon you every day, and that is the
    greatest compliment that can be paid to it.

    Perhaps of all the Americans the Bostonians are the most sensitive to
    any illiberal remarks made upon the country, for they consider themselves,
    and pride themselves, as being peculiarly English ; while, on the contrary,
    the majority of the Americans deny that they are English. There cer-
    tainly is less intermixture of foreign blood in this city than in any other
    in America. It will appear strange, but so wedded are they to old cus-
    toms, even to John Bullism, that it is not more than seven or eight years
    that French, wines have been put on the Boston tables, and become in
    general use in this city,

    It is a pity that this feeling towards England is not likely to continue ;
    indeed, even at this moment it is gradually wearing away. Self-interest
    governs the world. At the declaration of the last war with England, it
    was the northern states which were so opposed to it, and the southern
    who were in favour of it ; hut now circumstances have changed ; the

    northern states since the advance in prosperity arid increase of produce
    in the southern and western states, feel aware that it is only as manufac-
    luring states that they can hold their rank with the others. Their com-
    merce has decreased since the completion of the Erie and Ohio canals,
    and daring the war they discovered the advantage that would accrue to
    them, as manufacturers, to supply the southern and western markets.
    The imports of English goods have nearly ruined them They now
    manufacture nothing but course articles, and as you travel through the
    eastern countries, you are surprised to witness splendid fabrics com-
    menced, but, for want of encouragement, not finished. This has changed
    the interests of the opponent states. The southern are very anxious to
    remain at pence with England, that their produce may find a market;
    while the northern, on the contrary, would readily consent to a war, that
    they might shut out the English manufactures, and have the supply en-
    tirely in their own hands. The eastern states (I particularly refer to
    Massachusetts, Connecticut, and Rhode Island) offer a proof of what can
    he effected by economy, prudence, and industry. Except on the borders

    of the rivers, the lands are generally sterile, and the climate is severe
    yet, perhaps, the population is more at its ease than in any other part
    of the Union ; but the produce of the states is not sufficient for the
    increasing population, or rather what the population would have been
    had it not migrated every year to the west and south- They set a higher
    value upon good connections in these poor states than they do in
    others ; and if a daughter is to be married, they will ask what family tho
    suitor is of, and if it hears a good name, they are quite indifferent as tc
    whether he has a cent or not. It is remarkable that if a man has three
    or four sons in these states, one will be a lawyer, another a medical man,
    another a clergyman, and one will remain at home to take the property ;
    and thus, out of the proceeds of a farm, perhaps not containing more
    than fifty acres, all these young men shall be properly educated, and in
    turn sent forth to the West and South* where they gain an honourable
    independence, and very often are sent to congress as senators and
    representatives- Industry and frugality are the only entailed estate
    bequeathed from father to son- Yet this state alone manufactures to the
    the value of SB, 282,616 dollars in the year. As a general axiom it
    may fairly be asserted, that the more sterile the soil, the more virtuous*
    industrious and frugal are the inhabitants and it may be added, that
    such a country sends out more clever and intelligent men than one that
    is nominally more blessed by Providence. The fact is, without frugality
    and industry, the eastern slates could not exist ; they become virtues of
    necessity, and are the basis of others ; whilst, where there is abundance,
    vice springs up and idleness takes deep root.”

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    1. Thanks for the informative excerpts above. It’s funny (strange, I mean) how history has become so distorted and that the New England Puritan descendants have been depicted in such a negative way. Though they were human and had their faults like everyone else it seems they get a lot of bad press.

      I agree with you that I prefer a blog where there’s communication between a smaller number of people (who make quality comments) rather than hundreds where it’s much more impersonal and sometimes confusing with a lot of conflicting voices.

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